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8 years 10 months ago 8 years 10 months ago #606 by Jacob
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2 amino 5 nitroth­ia­zole is appar­ently an impor­tant med­i­cine to have, but I don’t think it’s avail­able in the U.S. I saw it for sale online but it said you need a haz­mat license to get it.
I haven’t found any med­i­cines for sale here that have it as an ingre­di­ent, either.
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8 years 10 months ago #607 by Mark Denaro
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I’m not famil­iar with that one, or may know it under a trade name. What name is it sold under in other coun­tries?

There are a num­ber of meds out there for vel­vet. Most of the ich meds will also work on vel­vet. You can also use Acraflavine Neu­tral and can dose that at higher than rec­om­mended rates if it’s a resis­tant strain (works with Bet­tas at sev­eral times the dose but have not tried that with Paros). You might also try LifeBearer, which you should be able to find locally.
Good luck,
Mark

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8 years 10 months ago #608 by Mark Denaro
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Salt will supress vel­vet but will not kill it, con­trary to the old wives tale. Adding some salt may also help.
Mark

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8 years 10 months ago #609 by Lit­tle
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Jacob — there is lim­ited infor­ma­tion in you com­ments con­cern­ing the prod­uct in ques­tion, but from what I under­stand you are look­ing at this med­i­cine as a cure for vel­vet?
2-​Amino-​5-​nitrothiazole is a syn­thetic vet­eri­nary antipro­to­zoal agent used since 1950 to treat farm fowl and pigeons for the most part. It is also used as an inter­me­di­ate in the man­u­fac­ture of a group of dyes known as dis­perse azo dyes. It is not known to occur as a nat­ural prod­uct. Peo­ple may be exposed to 2-​amino-​5-​nitrothiazole thor­ough con­tact with birds treated with the drug, releases from poul­try farms, and occu­pa­tional expo­sures in the dye indus­try.

There was some con­cern that this com­pound could have some car­cino­genic issues based upon a pre­lim­i­nary tox­i­co­log­i­cal eval­u­a­tion. Fol­low up epi­demi­ol­ogy stud­ies did not iden­tify any addi­tional neg­a­tive results.

There are numer­ous ytopi­cal fish farms here in the Tampa Bay area and the Uni­ver­sity of Florida main­tains a lab­o­ra­tory to assist the farm­ers. I have asked the ques­tion about this med­i­cine and if it is being uti­lized on the farms. I have also asked about the pos­si­bilites of obtain­ing the med­i­cine. It may well be that it is only avail­able under the super­vi­sion of a Vet. I’ll let you know what I find out.
Bill

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8 years 10 months ago #610 by Lit­tle
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Your 2-​Amino-​5-​nitrothiazole is not on the rec­om­mended list for treat­ing any of the fish on the farms. They uti­lize chelated cop­per sul­fate for the treat­ment of vel­vet. They use Fluben­da­zole also. The farms have to be very care­ful with the water. All the ponds drain into a hold­ing area and then pumped back into the ground. They watch closely to insure we don’t have some of this resid­ual stuff come back up in our ddrink­ing water. Hope this helps…

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8 years 10 months ago #611 by Peter Finke
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I have posted this infor­ma­tion on 2-​amino-​5-​nitrothiazole ear­lier in this forum but I can repeat it again.
Very suc­cess­full breed­ers of Parosphromenus and Betta species in Ger­many found out (about six years or more ago) that a med­i­cine sold here to com­bat hole dis­ease with Dis­cus worked per­fectly in eras­ing Ood­inium. The med­i­cine is called “Hexa-​Ex”, it is man­u­fac­tured by the big com­pany “Tetra” and sold as tablet. Shortly after Tetra another com­pany, JBL, sold the same med­i­cine with the name “Spiro­hexol”.
And the point is: Both prod­ucts con­sist of only one ingre­di­ent: 2-​amino-​5-​nitrothiazole.
Since that time all of us only use this med­i­cine to com­bat Ood­inium. All other meth­ods have proved to be not as effec­tive than this.
Many of us have tried to get this chem­i­cal sub­stance free as a pow­der. This is dif­fi­cult, for it is sold only to vet­eri­nar­i­ans. I do not know why.
When Jacob men­tioned a prob­lem with Ood­inium, I sug­gested to him try­ing to get hold of Hexa-​Ex (Tetra) or Spiro­hexol (JBL) or the sub­stance directly. But he replied that he could not find it.
I only can repeat our expe­ri­ence: It’s the best med­i­cine against that dis­ease. There is no prob­lem with dosage. We have never expe­ri­enced any sec­ondary effects.
Cer­tainly, it’s a strong chem­i­cal means. We all pre­fer more nat­ural meth­ods or lighter chem­i­cal means. But there have been severe losses of valu­able fish (self-​caught, few spec­i­men, the last of a form) by that lighter meth­ods. Since that time we use 2-​amino-​5-​nitrothiazole if things mus be com­bat­ted suc­cess­fully. (By the way: The sub­stance must be stored very cool, best in a refrig­er­a­tor. Oth­er­wise the yel­low will turn into a brown and the stuff will become worthless).

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